So him going Super Saiyan could theoretically be no weaker than Ultimate Gohan from the Buu Arc in terms of power. Harden has no leverage, and seemingly no plan ... Also if there is gonna be a Super saiyan blue 2. Gohan's plan is to get stronger by focusing on his Ultimate form, which means that he's unlikely to ever achieve - or even attempt to achieve - the Super Saiyan God or Super Saiyan Blue transformations. For further proof, the Daizenshuu 2 clearly states that Ultimate Gohan can go Super Saiyan, and doing that would make him even stronger that Buuhan. So actually Gohan is the stronger one. We also have to remember that Gohan had a greater amount of potential than any other Z Fighter, exceeding a Super Saiyan 3 in his Ultimate/Mystic form & becoming, according to Akira Toriyama "the strongest character in the manga to be unaided ⦠âWasâ would have been replaced with âIsâ if Gohanâs power level was same during the SSJ 2 Goku vs ⦠Although originally introduced as a mild-mannered and easily scared child, Gohan harbors an immense, limitless potential that surpasses that of his father. To say that Brolli's transformation is "equal to a Super Saiyan 3" just because he was stronger than Gohan in his Super Saiyajin 2 form, doesn't make sense. So adding Super Saiyan Blue (750,000,000,000) and Kaioken X10 (30,000,000) we can estimate that Goku's power in Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken is 750,030,000,000%. This is how I think it works: Gotenks - 250 bill (Super Saiyan 3) Gohan - 300 bill (Ultimate) Super Boo - 235 bill (regular) - 487 bill (Bootenks) - 232 bill (Booccolo) Which is stronger: Super Saiyan God, or Super Saiyan 4? Though Gohan had gotten much weaker due to not training after the Cell Games, he became stronger than he ever has after his potential was unlocked from Old KaiÅ-shin. 28 Stronger: Beerus If Final Form Frieza was able to take out Ultimate Gohan easily, that implies that Goku's base form is now stronger than Ultimate Gohan, Super Buu, and even Buu Saga Super Saiyan 3⦠1 Attack Dialogues 1.1 Super Attack 1.2 Meteor Attack 2 Match Dialogues 2.1 Sparking 2.2 Team Dialogues 2.3 Match Reset 2.4 Shenron 3 Miscellaneous Dialogues 3.1 Character Selection 3.2 Intro 3.3 Victory 3.4 Defeat 3.5 Results Screen 4 Navigation An asterisk (*) ⦠The fact of the matter is, that Mystic form takes Gohan to his ultimate limit, to a power further than any Super Saiyan form could give him (including 3, being stronger than SS3 Goku) while replacing the reflex to actually go Super Saiyan entirely. In the following blog, we would learn how Gohan transformed into Ultimate Gohan or should I say Mystic Gohan. Super Saiyajin 3, and the other transformations, don't provide a fixed power level to the user. Daishokaioshin 04:33, 15 March 2006 (UTC) With that, any real dominance came to an end. There is no Ultimate Super Saiyan. Of course not, Gohan is weaker than base form Frieza bro. This is made clear by how Super Saiyan 3 ⦠Boom. ... Gohan and Krillin were majorly screwed too. Boomstick: Gohan is stronger than that. Super saiyan 1 is a ⦠Which propelled him past Super Saiyan 3 Goku, Super Buu and even a fusion in Gotenks. The whole "I don't need to become Super Saiyan anymore" stuff was never a thing there. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Fang. The fact that not one example of Gohan fighting as a Super Saiyan while in Ultimate can be cited proves this. He's beyond his normal limits when fighting in Ultimate. Gohan achieved the Mystic form which is even stronger than Gokuâs Super Saiyan 3 yeah you heard it right the Mystic Gohan is way more powerful than the Super Saiyan 3 Goku. He lost against the yardrat when Frieza murdered him. 25-50% stronger than Super Boo is about the range where Gohan should fall, if he was anything closer, Bootenks wouldn't have been able to stomp him as easily as he does. After ⦠Overview. Gohan managed to achieve the transformation by getting under Elder Kaiâs odd training. This was when prime once again to reign supreme but Gohan was absorbed by Super Buu. He said that Gohan is indeed the "strongest non-fused dragonball character." 1 2 3 Ultimate ⦠The overall highest power level officially stated was 5,300,000,000 for Frieza's power level in Dragon Ball Z: The Real 4-D. But even so, Gohan still has plenty of room to grow as a fighter. At first glance you may not think there's enough information on the table to even have this debate: Super Saiyan ⦠His base form was still stronger than Piccolo, and I belive Piccolo was a good bit stronger than all their base forms back in the Buu Arc. One of my take aways are that super Saiyan 2 ultimate GOHAN is stronger than Super Saiyan God Goku. @jonsnowysnow: One thing I do agree with you is that ssj3 Goku is stronger than ssj Gotenks.But imo mystic Gohan is definitely above ssj3 Goku. base gotenks pre is stronger than SSJ1 teen gohan, gotenks survived against fat buu and escape while SSJ1 gohan couldn't survive or escape. After an entire arc of being definitively weaker than Super Saiyan 3 Goku, Trunks is able to tap into some mix of God Ki and go head to head with Goku Black, a character with God level power. Gohan is one of Dragon Ball's strongest Saiyans and his most intimidating form is Ultimate Gohan, where he doesn't even go Super Saiyan to extract the full potential of his energy. Gohan with this power up was even stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku and Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks since he was able to dominate Super Buu with ease without transforming. In the video I explain why GOHAN ⦠This is anime Gohan from the TV series in Z vs movie #13 Super Saiyan 3 Goku. Ultimate Gohan is just Gohan with his potential unlocked, he can't get stronger than that naturally, but utilizing forms and skills like the Kaio-ken, and Super Saiyan forms would multiply his power. Explanation: Stated to be the "full release" of the Super Saiyan transformation, meaning it is stronger than Super Saiyan Grade III which is 500x base form. This video is a review of Dragon Ball Super Episode 90. It was his lack of stamina that let him down ultimately. All you need to do is cite Gotenks Boo and Beerus. Goku is the first to transform into a Super Saiyan in a 1000 years. However, at his 100% strength, Frieza is stronger than Cooler. tl;dr Super Saiyan 3 Goku is stronger than Ultimate Gohan. Ultimate Gohan is a transformation achieved by Son Gohan after Elder KaiÅshin unlocked his potential. Gohan had the potential to surpass his father, seeing how he was able to go Super Saiyan 2 before Goku could, but he let his motherâs influence get the best of him. Messages: 169,759 Likes Received: 5,330 Trophy Points: 6,857 Joined: Mar 19, 2006. If Kid Buu is the strongest Buu according to both English AND Japanese versions of what Kabitokai says and Goku is able to compete on an even level with Kid Buu, while Gohan lost to an inferior Buu, Goku is therefore stronger than Gohan. But as for Gohan, the Elder Kai releases his deepest hidden powers, which make Gohan even stronger than a Super Saiyan 3. Frieza managed to put up a much better fight against Super Saiyan Goku. at as new Super Saiyan levels were introduced. Gohan's record in Super: 1) got wrecked by first form Frieza in RoF 2) struggled against Frieza's henchman 3) tied with Basil (fodder) 4) lost to Krillin 5) ⦠Ultimate Gohan (Anime) vs Super Saiyan 3 Goku (Movie #13) Discussion in 'Dragon Ball' started by Fang, Feb 22, 2017. This makes Gohan's Mystic form stronger than the Super Saiyan 3 form of Goku. RELATED: 10 Marvel Supervillains Stronger Than Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta. Super Saiyan Rage is a bit of a controversial form, in large part due to how Future Trunks obtains it. What is strange about this entry is that by the end of Dragon Ball Z, Gohan is inarguably stronger than Goku with the use of his Ultimate form. Featured: Football (Soccer) Music Pokémon Trading Movies Cyberpunk 2077 PlayStation 4 Sports Computer Hardware AC:NH Showcases and Work Logs Thinker's Lounge Super Smash Bros. Despite appearing to be in his normal state, Gohan, in actuality, is using the power of Super Saiyan 2 without the burden the latter transformation places on his body. It's an enhancement to base power. How much stronger is Super Saiyan Blue than SS3? As the old Supreme Kai unlock Gohan full potential through the use of his ultimate state. Vegeta did mention that Goku was stronger than Gohan âwasâ at his maximum, which would refer to Gohanâs power during the Cell games, right? Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner buy $30M Florida property. He actually managed to get a few hits in. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Others 4 Discussions Son Gohan is the eldest son of Son Goku and Chi-Chi, and one of the primary heroes of the second half of Dragon Ball. This would mean that Gohan's Mystic form, as the author himself stated, is meant to be the most powerful "nonfused" character on the protagonist side of the characters in the Dragonball Z series. 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