As I’ve aged I have really realized how cool it is to like many different styles of music. I bet none of them has ever listened to anything that wasn’t played on the radio (and we all know how awesome it is to base a band’s music on what the radio stations select to play over and over again). You can’t connect with Steel Dan emotionally because Steely Dan doesn’t care about you. With a gun “Now all those day-glo freaks who used to paint the face, they’ve joined the human race, some things well never change!”, Stringbuzz Just saying. I also get a boner for the complicated syncopated rhythms of Indian Classical and flamenco. ||
When I listen to Steely Dan now I donât hear a band, but a gathering of highly talented, but pretentious studio musicians trying to outdo each other. https://youtu.be/Z0rVFjhRL7w, Jack Williams (No Static At All)”. 3:30 pm, used to hate these guys when I was young even though id only heard a few of their songs. All of a sudden, despite the continued coolness of bagging on Steely Dan and Supertramp as the denizens of uncool on the classic rock format, you began to understand why they were essential. 4:45 pm. September 5, 2017 @ That soulless yet oh so soulful steely dan sound. What are you, like 15? They may not be the best band in the history of music, but there are alot worse bands out there, present and past. Certainly not in the league of Justin Heyward, Steven Tyler, Robert Plant or Geoff Tate. With a gun ya takes ya chances. Jack Williams I wasnât âgettingâ them, that must be it, so Iâd let the âexpertsâ take me by the hand and lead me through the process and explain to me why Steely Dan was as great as everybody has always said they are. And, until recently, that has never been a requirement for me. If you looked at my music collection, youâd expect to see them. Maybe it even angered you when they played the shorter radio edit version of “Do It Again” that eliminated the keyboard solo. September 8, 2017 @ I remember seeing Clint Black on an episode of Austin City Limits back in maybe the early 2000’s, and randomly Clint and the band decided to launch into a straight, uninterpreted version of Steely Dan’s “Josie.” It was even one of those Steely Dan songs that veers uncomfortably close to funk or disco. Now that I watched that documentary, I realize that part of the problem is that they aren’t really a “band”. What do you know about music…you probably listen to the mess that is polluting our airwaves today..crap like Kanye West,Katy Perry and Nikki Minaj. Then came Aja. Tame, tepid, lukewarm and never dangerous. You owed him money but you gave him something more I am a musician and lover of a very wide range of music – some of it even has METAPHORS in it and is COMPLEX I thunk. You nailed it Darryl. Each word drips with a cool wry irony, their songs dealing with the shady oddballs on the fringes of society rather than the typical love and heartbreak imagery pop so often resorts to. I asked myself why do they get such a bad rap? Their music is boredom in the … You’ll be missed, Walter. I did âget them,â but I still donât like them. Just learn how to use certain music in certain situations. omg!!! Suggestive lyrics. According to Nick Stockton of Wired , the real reason has to do with mirrors.
11:36 am. September 5, 2017 @ They are the warm washcloths of soft rock. This kind of bugs me. The man is a genius songwriter. With Luger in hand, I understood that you will soon be leavin’ town Why do I love the mall when I hate consumerism? They were popular despite themselves, because they were just too good to be ignored, even if they were often misunderstood. September 5, 2017 @ My sneaking suspicion is that most people never expand their horizons enough to find the things that they would appreciate the most, but that’s just a guess and I’m not about to start telling people they need to listen to what I like instead of that shit they like just on the chance that it’s actually possible for someone to have “better” taste than someone else and that I am the only one who really knows the true quality of anything. William Gibson called them "the most genuinely subversive" band in late-20th Century pop. Great horns. I love finding new music scenes or sub genres and exploring them. Kingpete With Steely Dan, I similarly found myself enjoying them more as I got older. Everyone else hates Mondays too. September 5, 2017 @ It certainly works for me. Somewhere in there my tastes, my reason for listening to music or seeing movies or looking at art, went from an intellectual interest to learn about stuff to a need to emotionally engage with something, to fall in love. I love, love, love Steely Dan and I just treasure their albums. Weâve all had people that were âperfectâ for us, that friends and family couldnât believe we werenât crazy about, that we just werenât that interested in. To lazily simulate ‘feel’ and ‘atmosphere’? Lots of folks don’t seem to like jazz. Between the lines in some of the comments i suspect plain snobbery or hipsterism is the basis of their supposed taste. Widespread acceptance isn’t what determines whether something has quality or not. Acca Dacca Jethro Tull (particularly the progressive mid 70’s period) is one of my favorites. I’m not going to put “I think” before every statement I make the rest of my life. Huh? And I do mean light, as in illumination. It doesn’t matter what you do–co-workers in all fields will hate … To conclude, steely dan are fantastic songwriters who’ve produced a lot of gorgeous music. If you’re the kind of person who believes naively in the ‘American dream’ or similar, then this music is threatening in a subtle and insideous way. Let's face it, it's sort of a weird band that's too jazzy to be progressive rock, and too rock to be considered jazz, that was slotted into the slosh pit of the … Ya buys ya ticket…. Listening to them makes my fucking bone marrow hurt!!! Way more subversive and alternative than the sex pistols ever were (I love the pistols as well btw). This was, by far, the most mature and enlightening discussion I have come across in debating the “suckiness” of a band. The two-disk set Philosopher’s Stone is an outstanding work that is later than what is mostly know of him. Last night I finished â after three attempts â watching a Tivoâd episode of âClassic Albumsâ on their landmark âAjaâ record from 1977. Extremely talented song-writers and musicians. "I hate Korea.". My feeling towards these people is that they’ve probably never had a true emotion, love or hate, in their entire lives. -Ed. Was exposed against my will to them last night. Because Steely Dan was cool. I … Wow. Some folks will never be comfortable with this as a legitimate art form. ‘Black Cow’ shows they could get funky when they wanted, too. That cheesy chord you refer to must be the Mu Major. Reading your conundrum made me wonder what my feelings were about the band, and others. That being said, I still find roughly 98% of the music that’s ever been recorded completely unlistenable. Haha, BrushHawg I’m in LOVE with Steely Dan & Donald Fagen’s strangely sexy voice. The people who respond to the question, “What kind of music do you like?” with “I like everything” make my skin crawl. Masturbated in public? Could be Steely Dan is just a little too complicated for you. These guys aren’t cool. Some of my friends don’t like it and i understand, its complex with lots of metaphors and that’s difficult for people. Earbuds or computer speakers won’t cut it. You might just not have the associated warm fuzzies (and that could change) that make you squeal with joy when they step on stage. They always were and they always will be. That’s not how it was done at all. I think it’s time to form a dark and sinister anti steely Dan cult. September 6, 2017 @ September 7, 2017 @ 5:29 pm. September 5, 2017 @ Rolling Stone magazine rated three Steely Dan records on their Greatest 500 Albums of All Time. You are obviously grovelling far too long here. And yet, there it is: they suck. Why Do They Hate Trump Like No One Else? Smoother than butter on a baby’s arse. Three little words that girls use to hide their feelings The fundamental opposite of I Love You. 4:11 pm. There is nothing wrong with not liking art of any kind by anyone. Great drums. It’s so much fun to find new styles of music! I like them because they have a way of looking at people and situations that I can identify with. And die behind the wheel. Poor things, someday you will hate yourself, i predict. I also like lyrics, but I’ve come to the understanding that I don’t care about the message if the music is bad. Six String Richie And they’ve done it their way, that inimitable steely dan way, the way that turned them into cult antiheroes and the pop connoisseurs choice of listening for the last 40 years or so. Listen to Baxter’s guitar on their first three records. Grew up with them, though admit they were not a particular favorite until many years later. Here’s the deal. The death of Steely Dan’s guitarist and founding member Walter Becker has classic rock fans reminiscing on the band’s legacy, and others reconsidering it. Meh. I may interject, that the reason you “hate” the Dan is that you love repetition, as evident in your blog. 6:00 am. You will be what you are just the same Usually, it’s just comments like “Fuck Steely Dan!” or “Steely Dan fucking sucks!” or “Listening to Steely Dan makes my bone marrow hurt,” and so on. They want you to squirm at their cheesy-meets-seedy lyrics. Great setlist, tight band and a soundman who knew his stuff. Texas: "Guitar Song" (2000)
Steely Dan haters? Led Zeppelin had 4 guys that covered everything (including production) and experimental recording techniques to enhance the listener experience (Wish You Were Here Record another amazing example) If Iâm going to get stoned, Iâm throwing on Wish You Were Here not Aja ð Seriously, Steely Dan is not in the same class as Pink Floyd or Led Zeppelin, I would go so far as to not classify them as ârockâ and definitely not cutting edge experimental âjazzyâ art music like Frank Zappa who pushed the envelope 100 times more than Steely Dan in that era. It is biting social satire heavy with bitter irony very carefully disguised as exactly the kind of manufactured easy listening pop that was (at the time) the ‘product’ of the culture they were satirizing. Best part is though, its just dang good music. Sharp. I can’t quite decide whether I’m just dyslexic about steely Dan or whether they really are just sh1t. Why are they even being played on the classic rock station? RIP, Walter Becker….. Mark Hi, i also ended up here by googling for opinions about that SD band. If I tend to agree with Critic A, then thereâs a better chance I will agree with his assessment and can possibly avoid wasting my money on whatever he so bravely risked his sanity experiencing for me. Without their bloated, pretentious, pseudo-jazz noodling, who would have inspired punk? 8:10 pm, hoptowntiger94 So⦠what exactly do I do with these new revelations? Great musicianship, well-crafted songs, but…there’s something missing. Oh me oh my, what if I am dumb after all. September 5, 2017 @ ||
I’m too young to have found them in their prime, but I picked up “The Royal Scam” used for $1.99 when I was in high school and didn’t even know anything about them beyond it was a cool cover. Don’t expect any audience interaction. So I find that by December 26th, I am … Why? If you don’t connect with them, that’s cool. EW in DFW Big, uplifting, sing-along/dance-along refrains that transport you to the west coast circa 1970. Critic B, with whom I never agree, is just as useful. For me when I was in HS and for much of college (late 70’s), I wanted my rock-n-roll, straight-forward, guitar heavy and loud. But, and this is the big thing, these various genres are best when they stay in there own lanes and that is really where the current music has gone off the rails and I really fear that it is a permanent crack up. Or some other such depravity? I bought both “Inside Genesis” DVDs- 1970-5 and 1975-80. Why Steely Dan's 7th studio album, "Gaucho," works so well 40 years after its release. Not sure if that is normal or a sign of the quality of new music or a combination of the two. People perceive their own voice to be the combination of those two sources … Listen to something like Razor Boy or Dirty Work. I can clearly see some stuff that is fine and interesting and maybe even respectable, but which gives us nothing to fall in love with. But years later I find I just donât feel anything now when Iâm listening. They wrote great lyrics, great music, and they hired the best. The only song I liked, somewhat, was “Reelin’ in the Years”, because I thought it was a Thin Lizzy song until I was old enough to know better. That’s the whole point. Steely Dan’s fans gush about the band’s perfectionism, musicianship, and sly lyrical darkness, but my new, grudging appreciation had nothing to do … 5:00 pm, Cool you mentioned him cause Waylon covered Bakerstreet on Hangin Tough. But it shouldn’t be uncool to like their music. As a listener and musician it’s tremendously rewarding. We have a very popular cover band in town that specializes in “yacht rock” – mostly 70s and 80s pop rock like Hall & Oats, Kenny Loggins, Billy Joel, etc. It’s cool, atypical and often at odds with their flawlessly smooth music, making things doubly subversive. âSteely Dan? I don’t care about this, and I’m a trained classical musician. blue demon They suck!â I gave up on trying to defend my position, even though it can still bother me (usually less and less).
September 5, 2017 @ Murder the man Scotty J No reverb + well placed microphones = slick production? Concert can be good or bad depending on his mood. Lord knows I dig a shit-ton of music now that I never could have seen myself listening to once upon a time. And, until recently, that has never been a requirement for me. and they always work. Not to minimize artistic talent or skills, but our response is just as much visceral as is rational. Have they committed some sort of sin? It’s trojan horse music. I liked all kinds of bands before my friends did and many of them thought I was crazy and most of them even eventually came around to agree with me. There are way worse bands, present and past, to hate on and you keep contradicting yourself when u say u hate them, but have respect for them. Who knows. Fagen never quite sounds genuine. FYI, their best songs aren’t the ones you hear on the radio. For me, especially at 48, the song “Hey Nineteen” has become an insightful favorite. They played music that top Nashville session players admired. As for myself, i know too little of SD, will give it a listen, but from what i’ve read about their supposed intellectualism, cynicism, black irony and ‘perfect musicianship over rockshow’ and ‘great lyrics’, that’s something that puts me off at least a little. I can’t stand them. Btw I found this page by googling I HATE STEELY DAN. 11:38 am. You must be like me, on satelite radio im constantly switching between Willies Roadhouse, Outlaw Country, and the Bridge. Actual music. I realize you have a very limited understanding of the world, but please understand this: you cannot say that you respect someone and still say that they “suck”. I’ve seen him a few times in concert. If you’re not the type who sits in the back of the class or meeting room, resisting bullshit through jokes and sarcasm, then I can understand the failure to bond with them. Steely Dan is music for self-congratulating, self-proclaimed “progressive-types” who believe that being an intellectual is sonomous with being a Steely Dan fanboy. They are complete perfectionists in the studio. High brow, well crafted blah blah blah. Thank for the article, Trig!!! Donât get me wrong: the music of Steely Dan definitely has a place in popular music, but itâs not a place Iâd ever like to be.”. Pretentious douchebags. They use a wide variety of chords because they like the sound, and because they can. SD were definitely an “uncool” band with “uncool” songs that takes time and experience to fully appreciate, even if you never gravitate to full fandom. And lastly, as Mr. Razzio said, you can enjoy SD two ways. But the one thing I cannot do is forget them. 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