Unknown said...The thing that I don't understand about the argument that former officials can't be tried is how this deals with an official resigning to evade disqualification.1: The disqualifications only for non-elective offices.2: If 2/3 of the Senate is willing to convict you, you're not ever going to get confirmed into another office3: Resigning rather than facing the impeachment conviction is an admission of guiltSo the answer is: you can resign at any point up until they've voted to convict you. John Sidney McCain III (August 29, 1936 â August 25, 2018) was an American politician, statesman and United States Navy officer who served as a United States Senator for Arizona from 1987 until his death in 2018. And the Black Cap. “It would be a terrible comment about Chief Justice Roberts if he was making decisions based on a personal dislike of President Trump,” Bauer observes, “and, of course, the worrisome thing would be if there are disputes related to the election.”. He also willfully made statements that, in context, encouraged — and foreseeably resulted in — lawless action at the Capitol, such as: "if you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore." Achilles, you are my favorite example of a self-licking ice cream cone! The next is whether there can be a trial. How can Trump get a fair trial, when Leahy will preside over it AND vote? "President Trump urged the secretary of state of Georgia, Brad Raffensperger, to 'find' enough votes to overturn the Georgia Presidential election results and threatened Secretary Raffensperger if he failed to do so. If the Chief Justice is required, then what Leahy is about to do is not a duty. Way to go Unify Joe! A pair of Michigan lawmakers were caught on camera drinking late into the night at the Trump International Hotel hours after a controversial White House meeting with President Donald Trump. 100% of the senate needs to ponder this and opine. "President Trump, addressed a crowd at the Ellipse in Washington, D.C. This is not just the "Senate's business". But wich OFFICIAL? Joe Biden considers ‘reality czar’ to fight ‘disinformation’. The first is whether Trump is guilty. I've always favored the rights of babies to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, but, with progress, and liberalization, now I favor the rights of warlocks, too. ... AP Photo/John Minchillo. Claim: Chief Justice John Roberts and Ghislaine Maxwell are pictured together. Not dumb like people say. Trump's attorneys will not offer a defense against the pathetically weak charge of inciting insurrection. Steve Jordal, One News Now | Oct 9, 2020 | Fresh Ink | 0. Surely the Senate's power to disqualify cannot be so easily evaded? That is very clear. Maybe that's par of what the anti-Trump Senators really want?Probably, but they don't seem to understand the effect that might have on his supporters.YH is right, they've all gone insane. THEN you hold the show trial. They crossed the Rubicon weeks ago. You're not paying him, dip. But he refuses to do so, because he's a RINO and hates Trump. See what I did there? "President Trump repeatedly issued false statements asserting that the Presidential election results were the product of widespread fraud and should not be accepted";2. Live on CNN, of course. rcocean: "McConnell pompously treats it with great seriousness and acts like the House deliberated and its a great Constitutional moment. Republicans, even the vacuous Mitt Romney, must have an inkling that a vote for conviction hinging on Republican votes would finish off the Republican Party for good and all. "John Roberts ducks the spotlight by skipping the second Trump impeachment trial", The prohibition embodied in this clause is not to be narrowly construed in the context of traditional forms but is to be interpreted in accordance with the designs of the framers so as to preclude trial by legislature, which would violate the separation of powers.1912 The clause thus prohibits all legislative acts, “no matter what their form, that apply either to named individuals or to easily ascertainable members of a group in such a way as to inflict punishment on them without a judicial trial. It is unlikely there are 17 Republicans to convict so should Trump wait it out? It seems so unfair to have Leahy presiding, and it's going to look hyper-partisan to people, especially to the 74 million Americans who voted for Trump. Like when the last time we had a Democrat President with all those 'signing statements' and such. "Ducks by skipping?!! I also agree with Reynolds that this should be dragged out as long as possible, to make these assholes look the stupid assholes they are in TV and to suck the air out of anything else. (1 John 3:4-10) and the theologically apostate (1 John 2:18-27)." Obviously, Roberts was asked and declined. The easy out is to say the impeachment is moot, because Trump is out of office. "Left Bank of the Charles said..."Trump can still be removed from the Office of Former President . He is charged as president, he can only be tried as president. BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said... Rules are made so corrupt democrats can abuse them.You need to get over this obsession with Democrats. He could barely walk to the front of the Senate chamber for his most recent swearing-in. Reprinted with permission. Instead, Senator Patrick Leahy, the Senate President Pro Tempore, will handle the Chief Justice's duties. The dynamic duo were back in the saddle this year hosting New Year's Eve. No Trumpkin has presented here a cogent argument either way on the issue. This was passed by the House with 2 hours debate and only 10 R's voting for it. Donald John Trump thus warrants impeachment and trial, removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States. The Rebublic is failing. What right does the Senate have to try and impeach him? Their sole defense, which they will repeat as many times as they are permitted, will be that the impeachment is unconstitutional and an illegal bill of attainder against a private citizen. In person learning for children characterized as ‘racism toward Black and Brown families’, Nancy Pelosi Planning a Coup? After all, Biden is now the commander in chief of the military forces occupying DC -- and he is the beneficiary of any ruling that Trump's allegations of impropriety in the 2020 election were invalid. Also a no-no under our Constitution. I think the answer is yes, and gave reasons, Inga gave a link to a longer argument. Could Roberts, as an interested party with standing, submit the question to the Supreme Court for a ruling? So Romney will have to stand up and be the one that moves this farce forward. With Roberts bowing out, and an "impartial" Leahy taking his place, this latest impeachment exercise is straight out of Karl Marx: "History repeats itself: first as tragedy, second as farce." Rather, "officers of the United States" are appointed exclusively pursuant to Article II, Section 2 procedures. Leahy said in regards to Bill Clinton's impeachment:Partisan impeachment drives are doomed to fail. Trump could object to the rank conflict of interest. How would the Supreme Court rule if presented the question at this stage? I really do believe now that Pelosi & Schumer are insane, or at least so deeply into dementia as to be not of sound mind. What the preceding article makes clear is that the Republican caucus in both the House and the Senate is ready to rumble. Until just before House impeaches?And if a resigned official can be convicted and disqualified by the Senate, why should one whose term has expired be any different? (33) P.S. On a purely legal level, the best move would be to pass a resolution instructing Roberts to try the case, right? Has Supreme Court Justice John Roberts been blackmailed or intimidated? The SCOTUS doesn't get involved in deciding what's a "High Crime and Misdemeanor". That an official can resign and thereby prevent disqualification until just before the conviction vote begins? ⢠CNN Projects Biden Wins Georgia and Trump Wins North Carolina; President Trump Speaks Publicly for the First Time Since Defeat; New Obama Interview Reveals How He Spent 2016 Election Night; United States Sets Record of New COVID-19 Cases Today; Several Dozen Secret Service Officers Either Tested Positive for COVID-19; United States Shatters Daily Record with ⦠John henryAlways a citizen, never a subject. And how could they NOT ask? BTW, its funny how everyone, especially the News Media, starts with the assumption that every fucking Democrat will vote guilty - no matter what. 1: For this to be dispositive, one must first believe that every action taken by the US Senate over its entire existence has been Constitutional.2: While they managed to get a bare majority to say "yes, we can impeach and try him", he was not convicted, in large part because they could not get more than a bare majority to agree that it was legitimate to impeach someone who was no longer in office.To use that as "proof" that it's legitimate to impeach and convict someone who is no longer in office? Unfortunately, it means that impeachment is a purely political act, and every impeachment thus far has been political. . If Trump is convicted, would he lose his perks as ex-President? Why is Sen. Leahy doing it? The whole thing is one page. It’s all a matter of inference.Who is being Tried. You are just noticing this now?? "It seems so unfair to have Leahy presiding"Now they've done it: Althouse gives up cruel neutrality. Welcome to the land of make believe. Either he presides or he has to state on the record his refusal and the grounds therefor. "So, the idea is that Trump can no longer be a former president. This conclusion should please the Trumpkins but they are too resentful to agree once I point it out. His staff? I can already see that deer in the headlights look. Can the House impeach and the Senate try George Washington? With him in the chair, isn't it 50-49 in favor of the GOP? Especially the mocking part. Crazy like a fox, is the expression. Delaying until then would give Biden and his gang plenty of rope to demonstrate yet more clearly and irrefutably what tyrannical assholes and pathetic incompetents they all are, so most of the public, including millions of disillusioned Biden voters, will be glad to find that Biden actually lost, and relieved to have Trump back in the White House. An official can't dodge the move to disqualify him or her from holding future office simply by resigning — as Secretary of War William Belknap did in 1876, knowing he was about to be impeached by the House. Not being president, he cannot be tried. Are they the insane being led by the insane?Get to work, you assholes! "Will Leahy be costumed in his horned animal skin shaman outfit? Was AOC even in the Capitol building during Jan. 6 protest? Left Bank of the Charles said..."Trump can still be removed from the Office of Former President,…"Blogger FullMoon responded..."So, the idea is that Trump can no longer be a former president. Its also a balance of power issue. ! "And I'd almost bet no one has standing to challenge the Senate in court if they proceed with trial.Assuming this is not just for show, a conviction would mean the Senate can vote to bar Trump from holding a future office. Johnson and Trump, where no crime existed, were pure politics. "The Constitution says the chief justice presides for a sitting president," Schumer said. We are in for some high comedy. Makes sense. Leave him alone. Insane! Could he argue that that is itself an admission that the election was stolen and that he is in fact the rightful and de jure President of the United States, though Biden, or whoever is whispering in his earpiece, is currently de facto president?I still think he has absolute and incontestable proof of election theft, and is waiting to drop it in one metaphorical nuclear blast, most likely at his trial. What I have not heard is a single affirmative explanation of how an impeachment of a President, that is not President, could be impeached.We impeach an office holder. I've always prided myself on how I use social media: engaging with everyone with charity, avoiding the hint of an ad hominem, and carefully limiting my use. . PLEASE do NOT engage this boob.You will have destroyed the discussion if you do. That’s how far afield they are. Copyright © 2020 GOPUSA | All Rights Reserved. Good. Pelosi Cites 25th Amendment to Remove Trump from Office, ALERT!! What conflict of interest would she have? An impeachment trial of a president must be presided by the chief justice. It’s not attainder because it’s a judgment on an act of the house which was perfectly legal. Amazing that they got the text of the Constitution wrong.The Article of Impeachment has been delivered to the Senate. Claim: A photo shows Chief Justice John Roberts swimming with Bill Clinton on Jeffrey Epstein's private island. We also know where his body is buried.This has legs Begley. Its absurd on its face. Leftist is serious, House Dems. Also, isn’t Trump still claiming he’s the rightful holder of the office of President? Pealosi should be ridiculed to tears. There isn't much else good on TV anyway, and we need our political entertainments. The upshot is, if the Democrats don’t use Roberts it’s a sham and a usurpation. The time is right everyone is upset don’t let this crisis go to waste!! The easy out is to say the impeachment is moot, because Trump is out of office. Okay, they go through with all this nonsense, tossing the clear language of the Constitution. When he presides, it's because he must, and when he refrains, it's because he must. Co. Accounting Oversight Bd. Fox News chief White House correspondent John Roberts was angry after Kayleigh McEnany refused to denounce white supremacists despite being pressed. Makes sense. Biskupic writes: Since the US House of Representatives impeached Trump on January 13, Roberts has declined multiple requests for comment on his responsibility, if any, for a trial after Trump left office on January 20. No wonder they all hate Tulsi.Yes, she's taken steps, albeit baby steps, to walk away from the democratic/dictatorial duality. This is why i hate mcconnell and his clown Senate Republicans. Where in the Constitution does it say that the Senate has the authority to try private citizens? History will judge us based on whether this case was resolved in a way that serves the good of the country, not the political ends of any party or the fortunes of any person.If Leahy presides over the impeachment trial, let's hope he follows his own good advice. Oh, and the FX President borrowed the concept of âpeak TVâ from me. Or Murkowski will abstain. His medical insurance?President Trump can probably get by without the pension and the insurance.But withdrawing his Secret Service protection will be an invitation to some psycho (see Antifa mugshots) to murder him. Like Biden, they got where they are because they're willing to say and do as they're told. That said, due process for the hunters, judges, JournoLists, and portesters. Their inability to even play checkers in a deep game of chess is quite likely to boomerang on them good and hard. How can the rest of the House & Senate go along with these things? Shouldn’t Sen. Leahy also be the prosecutor and defense attorney? That didn't work out well the last time. He owned slaves. Why âPeak TVâ Was a Flawed Theory (and John Landgraf Didnât Invent It) The unchecked growth of scripted original shows was ultimately undermined by pandemic studio shutdowns, not limits to consumer demand. That's a daffy way to put it. Then if he declines you sue him.Sue him? "The argument must be that Trump is no longer the President of the United States, therefore there's no role for the Chief Justice. Democrats will call any defense of Trump at this "trial" sedition. The contrast between the old farts who enliven this comments section and pathetic demented coots in charge is unfavorable to our pretenders to leadership. And you might as well take out Thomas and Kavanaugh too. And not specifying whether Roberts has declined requests to speak with the Senate or whether only from her - why I can hardly credit that this story passed CNN's editors, known to be sticklers for precision in all matters regarding Trump. I think he signed a 'bill' into 'law' or some such. They'll have their fake trial with a fake result and their propagandists will hound anyone who dares question it. Makes sense."LOL. I suppose if the left can make up some bullshit 'Office of the President Elect,' they can make up some bullshit 'Office of the Former President' and convict on those grounds.They're making up everything else. IANAL, or even a Canadian, but even I can see that there IS NO TRIAL WITHOUT THE CHIEF JUSTICE.Leave aside that Leahy is the hack's hack and always has been, if they proceed it's just more confirmation that the helm is in the hands of self-absorbed nincompoops who make it up as they stumble along.NarrAnd with that, to bed. Again this is the Swamp just letting everyone know that Trump got far more legitimate votes than Biden. If you've watched Leahy recently you might wonder if he's physically capable of presiding. What could possibly go wrong? If we’re paying him, we can impeach him. If Trump is elected to be POTUS, he serves for a life, because he can't be a Former President. That is the consequence of telling lies that lead to violence and lawlessness. Copyright OneNewsNow.com. But he refuses to do so, because he's a RINO and hates Trump. But withdrawing his Secret Service protection will be an invitation to some psycho (see Antifa mugshots) to murder him. There, he reiterated false claims that "we won this election, and we won it by a landslide." Ambassador to French Guiana? Watch breaking news videos, viral videos and original video clips on CNN.com. He was a colossal bore and an idiot then. Smearing the military with a ‘domestic terror’ brush? In short, it is the collective of the Great Merchants of the Earth, World Bankers and Royal Crowns who aspire to have⦠It will play well in the bluest districts, but nowhere else. This issue is specifically mentioned in the Constitution:Constitutional bansExcerpt from Article One, Section 9 of the United States Constitution, prohibiting the passing of bills of attainderThe United States Constitution forbids legislative bills of attainder: in federal law under Article I, Section 9, and in state law under Article I, Section 10. Itâs time to assume the worst of this government. Biskupic writes that the constitutional text is, "When the President of the United States is impeached, the Chief Justice shall preside," which obscures the argument Roberts-excluders must make. PHOTOS: Northeast gets ⦠It is a fair question whether or not Trump fits the definition of a President who is being tried by the Senate since he is only a former President.The entire 2nd impeachment is a bag of flaming dogshit the Democrats left on the porch of the House and Senate Republicans. https://www.pacificpundit.com/2020/12/17/unconfirmed-report- Judge to the 5th circuit? The post predicted (correctly) that if the Chief declines to participate without explanation, Trump partisans will argue that this means the Chief decided that the Senate lacks jurisdiction, when in fact he may have decided that he has no role whether or not the Senate has jurisdiction. I can understand why Democratic politicians would go on the news shows after Trump left office and say something to the effect of "I'm sure glad that asshole's gone from DC", except perhaps in a more polite fashion. This seems likelier and far more sinister than senescent senators running us into the ground. Dems offend the nice women of America at their peril. President? can the senators mail in their votes and let the D count them. Yes, I know it is just a formality and if she tried to exercise that power it would cause a CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS!!! The question no one seems to have asked: does Leahy think he can preside over the trial as a 'neutral' judge and then vote to convict as a member of the Senate? . The constitution is unclear. Andy Cohen and Anderson Cooper put a social distancing spin on their broadcast after-party this New Year's. So the Chief Justice presides.This is not such a trial, so the VP can preside (no such conflict of interest).Speculations about advisability or propriety are independent of that.The idea though is to destroy Trumpism by completing an aborted ceremony. LOL.Larry Tribe gets a big fat F from DDB from the low rated Creighton Law School. And his wife, for being actual President while not elected which is somewhat like being a past President. Why not? Taking on a role that is not yours under the Constitution is an abuse of power. Thanks Achilles. You impeach him. It's not too late, either, to get former President Woodrow Wilson for introducing segregation in Federal jobs. If you want to make some quick cash, buy Trump 2024 on the prediction markets now, and buy some more if the price goes down when the rubes think the impeachment trial is gonna be handled well by the Dementia party.Do you know how old Leahy was 20 years ago? "The expiration of President Trump's term renders one of those moot, but not both of them. We, the Supreme Court, are not the be all and end all.". I believe Roberts' refusal to preside clearly indicates that he thinks the proceeding is illegitimate. You'd think as an ex-President, he'd care about the prestige and power of the Presidency via Congress but I guess not. 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