What ever points , all we members are providing have been overlooked by u as a rebel against shaastras. Unto Dhrishtadyumna and Yudhamanyu and the twin sons of Madri and Vrikodara and Yuyudhana, Govinda said, "Ye kings, until we come back having informed the king of Karna's slaughter by Arjuna, stand ye here with care." If you are such big a devotee of SHRI RAAMA why don’t you spend time in Raama naama japa and leave this blog alone? So he does not have a counter for Karna and since Karna has a Vasava shakti, it is a big barrier towards the victory of Dharma. The Creator resides in the hearts of all creatures; He makes them act, as though they were parts mounted on a machine. It was about to happen when suddenly fate interfered. So acknowledging his father was the best thing he could have done.!!! Krishna said "Arjuna, distribute these two mountains of gold among the villagers, but you must donate every last bit of gold". Sugriva as a king commanded Vayu , Drona commanded in gurukul . why NAKUL a small sergeant could also have been sent with aletter from VEDVYASA saying please KARNA I am HARI kindly pay tributes its my orders and se PANDAVAS shuld be declared KING OF KINGS and you oblige you are a worthless inferior warriror before PANDAVAS kindlya ccept their supremacy over WORLD and cede them tribute [ kindly note ceding the supremacy is not defeat as per NEERAJ ] so why BHEEMA had to be advised to GO and NOT ARJUN …, I think neeraj you must go into hibernation for another few more years to study and come up with some more distraughted logic … i think blog members have enough reasons to laugh … u will come to know tht surya being graha raaja is more powerful than any other graha.. otherwise why will he be called graharaaja. Mukhyaprana entered Sun and bharati the moon . it cannot be authentic just because > Vahsishtha has said so . While Arjun was unconscious, Karna decided to utilize the time in extracting the wheel of his chariot. Sudarshan is a highest weapon , its use  would definitely KIll KARNA , but as lord VOWED not to use weapons , using SUDARSHAN was unwarranted . Shree Krishna Praises Karna Many Times in the Epic Mahabharata. Ans : Not true.Since his skills and knowledge was not praised , he was under constant challange to proof superiority over Arjun shatprashna upanishat : sa mithumutpadayate | rayim ch pranam cheti | yetau me bahudha prajah karishyati iti | adityoh vai prano rayirev chandrama |. Vayu puraan is another anme for linga puraan. PLEASE CORRECT YOUR FUNDAMENTAL THEN SPEAK. Vayu retains the same qualities in his avatara and amshas this is proved by pavamaan sukta i have to provide pramana now for this i shall do so . GOD CHOSE TO HONOUR SUN . 11. Lord Krishna Was Praising Karna In The Mahabharata Battle, Arjuna And Karna Yuddha In Mahabharata Niraj, Since Krishnas grace was associated with his defeat hence he was equal to Arjuna. > > but some newer points are Karna defeated jarasandha , and karna himslef was > defeated by BHeemsena . I am worried that how this Karna would be killed. I am unaffected as there is a saying kutte ke bhokne ka haathi ki chaal pe koi asar naheen hota.”. ( Bali chakravarty was under Vishnus protection hence tribute demons won over tribute again from Bali ) yatis themselves never compare theselves with Madhvacharya , example , 16 sargas are written for Sumadhvavijaya , when 16 sargas were written for raghavendra vijay , Swamiji hinmslef has thrown last 6 sargas into tungabhadra as he did not want to be compared with Madhvacharya . here there is no mention of self efforts as GOD , it speaks about GOD KRISHNA . Niraj, This is the icident in upanishat when Indra performs mahavrat yagnya after killing vrutrasur and Vishwamitra is presiding hotru . Karna was defeated Earlier by Arjuna but by Krishnas grace. As far as Draupadi's vastraharan is concerned, she insulted Karna in her swayamwar(no mere rejection as most people say), Karna even lost his son on that day due to the chaos. { in Chiraan’s voice }, astrology destiny planets navagrahas jyotish, Karna is one abiding by bramhins and Devatas, [He says to PArshuram ,I am anatha , all orphans and other creatures as well  are children of GOD,You are GOD and YOU are Bramhin , thus I said I am bramhin  ], KArna cannot be slayed by INDRA ,YAMA ,VARUNA, KArna , cannot be vanquished not even Sudarshan Chakra. I am not an expert on MBTN but you have not nullified any of the quotes above. One way or another, Krishna removed all of Arjuna’s obstacles throughout his life. The Sun is a planet, quotes from the Gita “The sun is illuminating the whole solar system. BUT after seeing PARVATI by the side of SHIVA he was mesmerised by her beauty and asks her as a boon the position of Brahma. Also don’t be surprised if you see quotes from Swami Vivekananda. Once Krishna and Arjuna were walking towards a village. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. 2, after dawn of knowledge Ans : Dhrona was not cursed by his guru as Karan was.Hence poor fortune. Sri Krishna said that praising one self is equal to commuting suicide. Your other statement ” Likewise just imagine if Karna had ignored his father later when everyone would learn about his family background wouldn’t that be more awkward for him !!! If I am not wrong Acharya has acknowledged this. siding with villain is more out of sulk , despair at misfortune … and partial hate towards GOD and his fortunate devotees …, BUT think with heart … you sympathise ..yes man GUY had everything only misfortune took the toll …. DHARM says one shud not emulate PURANA purush [ figures and acts of purana ] like harishchandra selling his wife .. PANDAVAS betting their spouse ..RAAMA going to vanvasa etc, After VAIRAGYA [ boon honoured ], Kaalyavan had a boon by SHiva that He would Kill Krishna , but contrarily he died at the sight of MUCHIKUNDA . They tell him tht a person sleeping in warfield is as good as dead and bheeshma will then emerge victorious. In hind sight what can be the punishment for attempting to fool Hari the Sarvottamma one who is without a beginning or an end, one who knows everything and is omnipresent. Vayu is different from his son hanuman. Admin Vaishnavi Narrating an exciting Story About It. Ans. 9) If bheema is really great then why does he forget manners and ridicule a challanger like karna as ” sootputra ” when the later challanges arjun. Thus, he always tries to do welfare of Duryodhana. 4) paandu tried to have sex with madri and died. [ boon nullified ], His repentance of not having Drona’s tutorship was well compensated by PARSHURAM [ Drona ‘s guru ] that made him equal to Drona himself [ is it not good fortune ], He was made KING of ANGA even before YUDHISTHIRA could acquire a KINGDOM [ is it not good fortune ], His skills were acknowledged and was parised everywhere [ is it not good fortune ], He acquired ANother half of ANGA rajya from JARASANDHA [ is it not good fortune ], EVEN when PAndavs were langusihing in forests , HE always had a Kingdom of his own and an emperor as a freind [ is it not good fortune ]. 1. Having reached evil species in birth after birth, the fools; completely failing to reach me, only, they then go to the lowest state. If you are the same Niraj from almost 2 and half years back then I am not surprised you look for any opportunity to repeat baseless comments on Karna`s post. Change ). devAH shivAdyA apitu 2virodhaM chakrire kvachit.h || 18.25|| So after hanuman was injured, vayu became furious and stopped the supply of air……. Karna lived in Palaces with Princes had loving foster parents who were very well off. ( poor fortune ) What is datta by Lord hari enables a body to overcome a situation . … He turned a blind eye to all these fortunes and out of ego , pride and jealousy , sided with the evil and lost all the fortune and perished . ( tribute and defeat are treated differently as bharat varsa is also mentioned surely Arjuna could not have defeated Krishnas kingdom or Bheeshma ) He also went into seven patalas won the demons and the deities and brought the tribute even from Bali Chakravarti. When Krishna praises Karna During Kurukshetra war, when Karna's arrow hit the Arjuna Chariot, it used to shake the whole chariot. Arjuna responded with Anjalika Astra, killing Karna. I have some points to share with u. Chiraan said the points of yoga vashista and geeta put forth by you are contradicting. [ getting support of enemies enemy ]. then either pitrus knew more than Vishnu . Krishna say’s. • Acquiring proved superiority.Its not Just fortune came on its own.He won. Also he is teaching to Shree rama and had his philosophy been wrong why will raam learn it? [ boon honoured ], Kaalyavan had a boon by SHiva that He would Kill Krishna , but contrarily he died at the sight of MUCHIKUNDA . Arjuna insulted Sri Krishna during the incident of giving protection to Brahmana’s baby. Vyasateertha allowed kanaka dasa because he was Yamaamsha . So madri thought herself to be responsible for paandu’s death and so commited sati sahagaman. I have no intention to debate on this subject as you are right on your side and I am also reasonable in my opinion. Arjuna went into the village, and proclaimed he was going to donate gold to every villager, and asked them to gather near the mountain. It was an armour given as boon to KARNA by SURYA . Such low iq guys getting attracted to simple philosophies is no surprise . support from scriptures . “Whatever I have studied from various sources I am convinced of the following aspects Krishna, via Ghatocatcha(Bhima’s Son), made Karna use his deadly dart reserved for Arjuna. EVERYTHING is leela . or they felt perhaps earlier BHEEMA was asking only tribute so why not give it .. now its war so lets have some fun .. and also earn some favpor of DURYODHAN because first time we listened to vEDVYAS and pANDav and now its our moral duty to support the other brothers Kaurav ,, hisaab barabar … its a wonderful study Dr neeraj ], Here is another email sent to me from Niraj, “In continuation cant have a debate where instead of nullifying arguments personal insults are being hurled on the opponent and when the opponent reverts his answers are conveniently censored to prove your self winner. brahaspati ………….. WIth KAVACH kundal on he was vanquished by many . Only SHRIMAN NARAYANA will give moksha and nobody else… If you are sticking only to Karna you are definitely going downhill and that’s what I said… you are missing the whole point of life in this futile pursuit. Sun is also yagnya bhuk . Sumeet again saying you know this i dont know this is not going to work , you have to proove why YV is authentic . The fact that boons were dishonoured shows mere boons does not make one INVINCIBLE . Good answer. So what ever indra does … he wont get any sin according to u Therefore, Sri Vedavyasa asked Bhima to play the principal role by undertaking digvijayayatra. Jarasandha’s body was ton apart by Bheemasen many times not by hitting at the marma but by splitting him from mooladhara which is strongest part of the body . He always abuses Pandavas and praises Kauravas. shashtrayonitvat om. Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. KARNA is mere a mortal and pitiable mortal at that . 5) It is funny to hear tht shiva does sandhyavandana.In is repeatedly told in scriptures and vedas tht he is engrossed in dhyaana and no other means of sadhana. Tht s why they could nt move and are in a comma kind of thing for some time and mean while arjuna leaves. Since for people not given to strict austerities and conscious sadhana light comes and goes meaning we sometimes show wisdom and at others make a complete fool of ourselves. which perhaps your tiny brain may not > comprehend . Many points you have raised only fortify the concept of gradation and Taratamya. One of the strongest points that followers of Karna [ as invincible] have is the words of Krishna praising Karna ,on the eve of death of Ghatotkach . then it was given by pitrus , so higher devatas must have knowledge of it as well . let me give example … a) Keshava b) Krïšhñä c) … Yama has sowmya rupa of DHARMA and yama is bhayankar rupa . [ is it not a good fortune ]. 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